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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerdurden View Post
    the thing is, you're not paying $120 for a 3-d ride, you're paying $120 for several world-class theme park attractions, most of which do not require you wear 3-d glasses. So if you honestly think that one 3-d movie at your local theater is a better deal than 12 times that much to ride the mummy, hrrr, men in black, the simpsons, et, or the soon-to-be he, then you are quite the film fan.

    But that's not even the point. You can't compare the experience universal offers you to a movie theater. Last time i saw a movie in 3-d (man of steel, yuck) i sat in a box with a bunch of annoying people who were kicking my seat and kept getting up and sitting back down--i was very aware i was watching a screen, in a black box, and that i would be done in 2 hours.

    This is not my experience at any of the rides at universal. I go on transformers and i'm in a fully-realized, multi-layered environment. The images just don't jump off the screen, they're a living part of the experience that envelop and involve you. I can't get that in a movie theater, where i'm sitting down in the same spot watching something passively going on that doesn't involve me.

    Even in theatre-style shows like the terminator, you aren't just watching a movie, you are part of a fully-realized immersive experience. The live action only adds to it. But the show does a great job of throwing you into the action. That's an experience you can't get for 10 dollars elsewhere...

    The thing about involving guests in attractions is that world-class theme parks are devoted to offering the best experiences possible, and utilizing the best resources available to fully immerse guests into the world they are offering. Do you not like 3-d? Ok, that's fair. But what's the alternative to not using it? Transformers wouldn't be the action-packed spectacle it is now. It would be a passive experience, where you pass a few figures who really don't do much...you certainly wouldn't be able to fly through the air or crash through buildings or pass through devastator. I feel like that's a poor alternative to the experience that is offered now.

    In regards to kong, you have to realize that, again, universal is devoted to throwing us, as guests, into an immersive world where we are part of the action (really, the antithesis of the experience at the local movie theater). If the best way to do that is to use 3-d, then i think we should be applauding their efforts to really bring something crazy and action-packed to life. Sure, some parts of the ride may be built using "stupid-ass tv screens", but what sets them apart from the amc over in citywalk is the fact that they make up part of a much larger experience that you can't match anywhere else. And even better yet, rumors seem to hint at live action effects and animatronics. So, yes, 3-d isn't a hot commodity right now--but it's not about the technology itself, it's its implementation that is important, and that makes the difference.
    This guy knows what he's talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
    The thing is, you're not paying $120 for a 3-D ride, you're paying $120 for several world-class theme park attractions, most of which do not require you wear 3-D glasses. So if you honestly think that one 3-D movie at your local theater is a better deal than 12 times that much to ride The Mummy, HRRR, Men In Black, The Simpsons, ET, or the soon-to-be HE, then you are quite the film fan.

    But that's not even the point. You can't compare the experience Universal offers you to a movie theater. Last time I saw a movie in 3-D (Man of Steel, yuck) I sat in a box with a bunch of annoying people who were kicking my seat and kept getting up and sitting back down--I was very aware I was watching a screen, in a black box, and that I would be done in 2 hours.

    This is not my experience at any of the rides at Universal. I go on Transformers and I'm in a fully-realized, multi-layered environment. The images just don't jump off the screen, they're a living part of the experience that envelop and involve you. I can't get that in a movie theater, where I'm sitting down in the same spot watching something passively going on that doesn't involve me.

    Even in theatre-style shows like the Terminator, you aren't just watching a movie, you are part of a fully-realized immersive experience. The live action only adds to it. But the show does a great job of throwing you into the action. That's an experience you can't get for 10 dollars elsewhere...

    The thing about involving guests in attractions is that world-class theme parks are devoted to offering the best experiences possible, and utilizing the best resources available to fully immerse guests into the world they are offering. Do you not like 3-D? Ok, that's fair. But what's the alternative to not using it? Transformers wouldn't be the action-packed spectacle it is now. It would be a passive experience, where you pass a few figures who really don't do much...you certainly wouldn't be able to fly through the air or crash through buildings or pass through Devastator. I feel like that's a poor alternative to the experience that is offered now.

    In regards to Kong, you have to realize that, again, Universal is devoted to throwing us, as guests, into an immersive world where we are part of the action (really, the antithesis of the experience at the local movie theater). If the best way to do that is to use 3-D, then I think we should be applauding their efforts to really bring something crazy and action-packed to life. Sure, some parts of the ride may be built using "stupid-ass tv screens", but what sets them apart from the AMC over in Citywalk is the fact that they make up part of a much larger experience that you can't match anywhere else. And even better yet, rumors seem to hint at live action effects and animatronics. So, yes, 3-D isn't a hot commodity right now--but it's not about the technology itself, it's its implementation that is important, and that makes the difference.
    Excellent analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disneyhead View Post
    I am about 99% sure we won't be visiting Skull Island.
    YES!!! This was the answer I was hoping for. Thanks Disneyhead.

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    I wonder if this will have any effect on the plans/if Universal will try and distribute the movie:
    http://badassdigest.com/2013/10/03/n...g-kong-sequel/
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    Been a while since I've been here lol. Well things change...


    A New Island Rises...


    Now lets get onto some gossip shall we but before we go any further though I want everyone and I mean everyone to know a few things. First is that plans change, alter, increase budgets, get cancelled and so on. Many of the things I share are considered blue sky until ground is broken. Second is that I am not always correct. I take chances by giving you info so far out in advance that sometimes I either get it wrong or it changes enough to not be as close to the bluesky thoughts I bring you here. So while I personally don’t care if I “get it wrong” because something doesn’t make it, gets moved, or even gets cancelled I just need everyone out there to realize I share everything for a reason. I share the things I do when I do for a reason. Finally its that there is so much going on at the moment with info coming out of all faucets its very hard to tell what is approved, blue sky, or even worse fake to attempt to seal the leaks. So while I always say it I must remind everyone again. Everything I share with you is RUMOR. No matter how concrete it may seem on my end I must always take things with caution and divulge it to you in a very careful, respectful, and yet somehow open manner. What your about to read is and should be treated as a rumor until Universal confirms such additions. So with that being said I also want to point out I’m usually right anyways so ehhh whatever lol.

    So months ago I in partnership with Disneyhead brought you news of a Jurassic Park Expansion that consisted of a family coaster where the Trikes are at as well as a dark ride coming out of the Discovery Center. We originally all agreed that the location of the attraction was to be where the Trikes are currently located. But over time it became clear something was coming to the land behind Thunder Falls Terrace, hell there are already markers back there. We’ve already seen Phase 1 of the JP Expansion near completion for the games addition in the JP River Adventure Overflow but what about that Phase 2… Why is it we were shown a family coaster overlay for the Trikes but nothing for the land behind Thunder Falls??? Hmmm…

    Then as many of you remember just a few months ago I broke news as we opened up the Stash Volume 2 about several projects going on around the resort. The biggest story being Kong coming back to Universal Orlando within the next 2-3 years. The plans involved showed a mixture between Kongfrontation and Kong 360 3D as an overlay to the Studios Disaster attraction. It would of involved a single Kong AA, New Preshows, New RV’s, Projected Media, and special effects that utilized the current Disaster building layout. To me it seemed fairly obvious this was true since two MAJOR companies were already working with Universal on future Disaster work to be completed. Creative themselves had been seen walking in and out of Disasters service exits during business hours for crying out loud lol. For those who follow me on Twitter you may also remember as early as a few days ago I commented on the green barrier fence being heighted to over 10’ to conceal stuff in plain sight within a trailer. What I didn’t mention was a sculpture of a big Monkey chilling in the office with the lights on…

    Well anyways most things seemed to of been falling into place on my end and I never intended to be writing this right now I assure you but here we are. Things change, move, and or get cancelled. So while everything I have shared with you still may very well be accurate and what I’m about to share with you is a clever way for Universal to keep us off the trail as it just showed up today. And trust me it threw me for a loop… So it appears I was wrong about Kong. This physical and digital attraction of the big man isn’t going where Disaster is, and for that I am sorry. I’ve lied to you all lol. Its actually going into IOA behind Thunder Falls Terrace… Yeah it seems Comcast may have opened up Creatives bag and pulled out another older concept and built upon it greatly where the big man takes over the entire area between Thunder Falls and Toon Lagoon in almost a mini Skull Island.

    The attraction itself is a MAJOR E Ticket Attraction complete with indoor and outdoor scenes. Think Indiana Jones meets the Great Movie Ride with a little bit of Jurassic Park thrown in. The entrance themed to ruins with waterfalls bursting out of the façade. It will feature a massive themed “underground” temple queue surround among more ancient ruins. The tandem entertainment guided EMV’s will leave the temple and head out into the wilderness. Outside will feature large AA’s most that we avoid as our guide shows us the way on our journey. We then enter the massive sound stage where we will encounter numerous AA’s, giant insects, projected effects, live fire effects, and a host of other live effects. We will also see one creature utilize Kukas for arms that attack the RV’s. At one point even our driver is captured and were left to fend for ourselves in the wilderness. The final and very large scene involves the big man coming from multiple angles on both sides of the RV.

    I realize this all leaves more questions than answers about future projects but given the details I have seen I have no reason to think outside of Disaster not much else will change from what we have already shared so far. But it does leave me to think, just how much time does Disaster really have… I hope you have enjoyed reading this my friends, as I must now slide back into the shadows once again…

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    Woah, that sounds amazing if true.

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    HTF why you post this in normal thread??? I though you only did this stuff in the stash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfster View Post
    I wonder if this will have any effect on the plans/if Universal will try and distribute the movie:
    http://badassdigest.com/2013/10/03/n...g-kong-sequel/
    In light of HTF's recent news, Surfster's post seems to take on a whole new relevance. The sequel takes place on Skull island, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by romo View Post
    HTF why you post this in normal thread??? I though you only did this stuff in the stash?
    All the problems with the site, thats why. Can't go into to much detail but in time we will.

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    So I guess we need to move this whole thread to the IoA forum...

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    Oh wow. Look forward to this. My goodness. I may have reasons to go back to IOA after all.

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    Even though I'm annoyed we have to put up with Disaster now. This sounds a heck of a lot better than what we originally thought! But I'm confused, is JP still getting an expansion or a major new ride???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accio Butterbeer View Post
    Even though I'm annoyed we have to put up with Disaster now. This sounds a heck of a lot better than what we originally thought! But I'm confused, is JP still getting an expansion or a major new ride???
    From what it sounds like the way HTF summed it up , yes. Although I could be wrong.

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    HTF tweeted today:

    Just got word of the proposed Kong budget...woah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accio Butterbeer View Post
    Even though I'm annoyed we have to put up with Disaster now. This sounds a heck of a lot better than what we originally thought! But I'm confused, is JP still getting an expansion or a major new ride???
    Disaster is the last great attraction of its kind.
    "What have they got in there, King Kong?"-Dr. Ian Malcolm

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